patriot act violates 1st and 5th
reuters has it
let the cracks show…
[text below in case the link goes stale]
Federal Judge Strikes Down Part of Patriot Act
Mon January 26, 2004 04:50 PM ET
By Dan Whitcomb
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – A federal judge in Los Angeles has struck down as too vague part of the Patriot Act that bars providing “expert advice and assistance” to foreign terrorist groups — marking the first time a court has declared part of the law unconstitutional.
The written ruling by U.S. District Judge Audrey B. Collins, came in a 2003 challenge to the Patriot Act by five organizations and two individuals who sought to support Kurds in Turkey and Tamils in Sri Lanka.
“The ruling is significant in that it strikes the statute down as being in violation of the Fifth and First Amendments,” David Cole, a Georgetown University law professor who argued the case for the Humanitarian Law Project.
“It underscores what so many have said all along about the Patriot Act — that Congress, in acting so hastily after 9-11, swept far too broadly and didn’t pay significant attention to constitutional rights and liberties,” he said.
A U.S. Department of Justice spokesman said in a written statement that attorneys there were reviewing the decision.
“The Patriot Act is an essential tool in the war on terror, and has played a key part — and often the leading role — in a number of successful operations to protect innocent Americans from the deadly plans of terrorists dedicated to destroying America and our way of life,” Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo said.
“The provision at issue in today’s decision was a modest amendment to a preexisting anti-terrorism law that was designed to deal with real threats caused by support of terrorist groups,” he said. “By targeting those who provide material support by providing ‘expert advice or assistance,’ the law made clear that Americans are threatened as much by the person who teaches a terrorist to build a bomb as by the one who pushes the button.”
Collins, who was appointed to the federal bench by former President Bill Clinton, wrote in her 36-page ruling, which was made public on Monday, that the Patriot Act was too vague when it attempted to bar “expert advice or assistance” to groups designated as terrorist by the U.S. government.
“…The USA Patriot Act places no limitation on the type of expert advice and assistance which is prohibited and instead bans the provision of all expert advice and assistance regardless of its nature,” Collins said in the ruling.
But Collins rejected arguments by the plaintiffs that the law was overbroad and that it gave the Secretary of State “virtually unreviewable authority” to designate groups as terrorist.
we can not defend democracy abroad and abandon at home
but the war in iraq and afghanistan are dending democracy abroad while patriot act is abandoning it at home this lowers the bar for freedom
the usa is home of the free so if freedom is lost dimished it allows all other contrys to lower standerds to or below are own this is a global promblem first other western contrys like britin
http://home.uni-one.nl/plein/jon/Read_more/politics.htm
in the end I dont want the us constitution or any foreign constitution to read somthing like this
all living human beens are people unless parliament rules other wise
all poeple have the freedom of speech unless other wise dictated by law all speech is protected unless dictated other wise dictated by law
now this style of constitutional law would provide no protion are rights but the patriot act is worded no different some spots and if up held by the courts we could very well have a interpretation of the us constitution just like the sample I gave above worded different but the end result would be the same
Comment by tom — November 19, 2005 @ 6:15 pm